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#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 1, 2018 8:30:22 PM(UTC)
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OMG X-Wing 2.0 announced ! Love

Hier wat screenshots van de presentation


Nieuwe core rules (actions revamped, turrets redesign, medium bases, force stat, alles heeft bulls eye firing arc, PS6 is max ...)
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Backwards compatible: conversion kits available for all released content
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Force Stat
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Free squad builder app
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new core set
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new sculpts
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Convertion sets
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Beschikbaar vanaf augustus (@Gencon)

Veel nieuwe info !
Breaking news Cool

Na 6 jaar had het game dit echt wel nodig ... en het ziet er veel gestoormlijnder uit naar de toekomst toe.

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 1, 2018 8:44:53 PM(UTC)
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 1, 2018 10:14:03 PM(UTC)
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Some more consolidated info:

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- 50$ per conversion kit (1 for each faction, so 3 total in wave 1, with FO and resistance packs coming in wave 2)

- FO and resistance are now distinct factions

- Force abilities

- Point costs and upgrades aren't on cards, but rather left on a squadbuilding app (free)!!

- Medium bases

- Release date September (or early access at Gencon)

- Push The Limit is a core mechanic available to some ships, with the ship having two actions bars with one action leading to another via stress. Also, some actions are "red", such as a Y-wing BR, which you can do but have to take a stress.

- Nationals, NA and Eurpoean Champs, SOS, will be 1st Edition. Coruscant will be 2E. I just heard them wrong. Thanks, u/starslinger72!

- 2q and Store Champs kits will be out in June, and will be for 1E, but SC kits will have some prizes for 2E.

- All old ships and dice will be backwards compatible. They have all dials, cards, bases, upgrades, and pilot cards to convert all old ships.

- Faction identities are important...Rebels "have each others back" and are "friendly" and "helping". The Empire is "regimented", and "fly well together or else" with a focus on "swarm flying". Scum are up to "dirty tricks" and "screwing with you".

- The Force is not a "gimmick". The way the Force works is that you have "force charges." A FS pilot will have a certain number of charges. Vader has 3, for example. Ezra might only have 1. They can be spent like a mini-focus to change 1 result. There are also force power upgrades, and the force charges can be spent to use them.

- PS goes up to 6, and VI is gone. Thanks u/sirtoastalot! I thought I heard them say that, but my audio was messy when he did.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 1, 2018 11:18:07 PM(UTC)
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Demo met Alex Davy



Een must see als ge wil weten waaraan en waaraf, héél veel info.

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, May 2, 2018 8:01:00 AM(UTC)
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Video van de Hyperspace report zelf (voor zij die de live stream gemist hebben)



Ook interessant (future of second edition)



En een teaser filmke:



Tenslotte, meer info over de conversion kits in detail:

Empire First Order https://www.fantasyfligh...1/crush-the-rebellion-1/

Rebelle Resistance https://www.fantasyfligh...1/all-wings-report-in-1/

Scum https://www.fantasyfligh...018/5/1/become-infamous/
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, May 2, 2018 1:58:55 PM(UTC)
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Galactic Empire Conversion Kit

2 – Alpha-class Star Wing
3 – Inquisitor’s TIE
2 – Lambda-class Shuttle
2 – TIE Advanced
3 – TIE Aggressor
3 – TIE Bomber
2 – TIE Defender
4 – TIE Fighter
3 – TIE Interceptor
2 – TIE Phantom
2 – TIE Punisher
3 – TIE Striker
3 – VT-49 Decimator


Waarom in hemelsnaam 3 conversions voor de Decimator en maar 2 voor nen defender... No more triple defender?


Verder wel goed nieuws dat ze een deftige overhaul doen om de geest van het spel er terug in te krijgen.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 2, 2018 2:08:09 PM(UTC)
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Waarom in hemelsnaam 3 conversions voor de Decimator en maar 2 voor nen defender... No more triple defender?


Dat vond ik ook raar, maar wie weet is nog niet alle info finaal/juist.

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 2, 2018 3:23:56 PM(UTC)
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Ik heb het opgegeven alle info te verzamelen, tis gewoon te veel BigGrin

Deze topic lijkt me zeer goed voort moment:
https://www.reddit.com/r...info_i_could_find_on_20/

De rest zal wel doorsijpelen de komende weken.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 2, 2018 7:19:27 PM(UTC)
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de demo gezien van versie 2.0.

ziet er goed uit.

sommige upgrades krijgen nu tokens en elke keer je ze gebuikt moet je een token gebruiken.
vind ik goed. geen autothrusters die je bij elke attack kan gebruiken.


als je sqd gaat maken zal je de app moeten hebben, want er staan geen punten bij wat piloten en upgrades kosten.

Zal deze app gratis zijn of zal je ervoor moeten betalen?

Er komen nieuwe piloten bij, ben wel benieuwd of ze alle piloten van versie 1.0 gaan behouden.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, May 2, 2018 7:22:48 PM(UTC)
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Zal deze app gratis zijn of zal je ervoor moeten betalen?


De app zal op iOS, Android en als web applicatie beschikbaar zijn en volledig gratis ThumpUp

Verder zoals je zegt: veel leuke changes ! Smile

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#11 Posted : Wednesday, May 2, 2018 8:23:43 PM(UTC)
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Waarom in hemelsnaam 3 conversions voor de Decimator en maar 2 voor nen defender... No more triple defender?


Dat vond ik ook raar, maar wie weet is nog niet alle info finaal/juist.



Hah Davy, tis duidelijk nog niet finaal !
De lijst is al geupdate:

Galactic Empire Conversion Kit

3 – Alpha-class Star Wing 3 – Inquisitor’s TIE 2 – Lambda-class Shuttle 2 – TIE Advanced 3 – TIE Aggressor 3 – TIE Bomber 2 – TIE Defender 4 – TIE Fighter 3 – TIE Interceptor 2 – TIE Phantom 2 – TIE Punisher 3 – TIE Striker 2 – VT-49 Decimator

Nog maar 2 decimators en nu wel 3 star wings. 👍

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, May 2, 2018 9:19:31 PM(UTC)
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Yip, maar de Tie Fighters zijn van 4 naar 3 gegaan... Blink

We zullen wel zien als het eindelijk zo ver is zeker Glare
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, May 2, 2018 10:58:03 PM(UTC)
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This keeps getting better !!!

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TLT confirmed for nonexistent in 2.0 on FFG's stream


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#14 Posted : Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:46:03 PM(UTC)
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Misschien wave specific card-packs ? Ideaal voor spelers van het eerste uur die wel de nieuwe cards willen (voor toernooien) maar geen extra ships meer nodig hebben ?
Benieuwd wat de specifics zijn...

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Live stream on the FFG twitch they just stated that after wave 1, each wave will have an easy way for veteran players to get the new upgrade cards without needing to get duplicate single ship upgrades. They did not go into any further details, but they said that there will be a way to get these cards without the ships.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, May 3, 2018 12:06:38 AM(UTC)
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More news from the stream

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- First Order and Resistance kits will be cheaper and have more copies of each ship.
- The idea behind upgrade kits for the original factions was approximately half what you'd need for a Generic Swarm.
- Decimator was a typo, we get 2 not 3. Star-Wing Count is 3. They said there may be other typos.
- Other smaller upgrade kits may be coming for some ships with new future content. (Wave 2+)
- Medium base ships use large pegs but have converters for small ships that got bumped up.
- World Champ cards will NOT be converted as they differ to much from new design paradigm.
- The Falcon is now cheaper point value and will have access to things large ships will not get access to (like boost, which will not be on large ships and engine upgrade is gone). Swapped 1 turns for 3 turns on dial, and gained some greens/blues.
- Half points on all ships now.
- Cloaking was the inspiration for the system phase (mentioned for bombing) and also occurs in this phase. Otherwise its basically the same as before.
- Aces, like Soontir and Rau will cost significantly more points than lesser pilots on the same ship. Being an Ace essentially comes with a heavy cost.
- Most ships had dial changes, but to their knowledge only Lambda and TIE Fighter stayed the same.
- New core has 3 asteroids and 3 debris. 1.0 objects still allowed of course.
- IG-88 is a "droid pilot" and has access to a new "calculate" action.

They doubled down on their earlier claim. Veteran players with large collections will NOT need to buy ships going forward in future waves. No details on what we will be buying


All good news across the board.
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#16 Posted : Saturday, May 5, 2018 11:02:04 AM(UTC)
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Heb je perse een Core set nodig of is een conversion kit voldoende? Of is dat momenteel nog onduidelijk?
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#17 Posted : Saturday, May 5, 2018 4:26:49 PM(UTC)
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Heb je perse een Core set nodig of is een conversion kit voldoende? Of is dat momenteel nog onduidelijk?


Momenteel is dat nog onduidelijk, maar wat ik wel weet is dit:
- in de nieuwe core set zit het nieuwe damage deck (mogelijk kan je nog met het oude damage deck blijven spelen, net zoals toen de Force Awakens core set uitkwam)
- in de nieuwe core set zitten de nieuwe templates. de afmetingen en de maneuvers zijn hetzelfde als vroeger, maar nu staat er een lijn midden op de maneuver templates (om positionering bij bumping te vereenvoudigen + om de barrel roll op de 1-straight maneuver te doen, dat is een beetje anders nu). Volgens mij kunde gewoon zelf met een fijne stift de lijntjes zetten, zeker voor casual play.
- er zit natuurlijk de nieuwe core rulebook in, want er zijn wel een hele hoop regels anders nu ...
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#18 Posted : Sunday, May 6, 2018 10:51:50 AM(UTC)
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Beetje spijtig dat het dan weer terug 1 X-wing en 2 Tie fighters zijn. Had leuker geweest als ze iets nieuws hadden verzonnen.

Ze hebben precies wel al veel shit moeten slikken. Sommige argumenten zijn begrijpbaar.

Gelukkig zijn er conversion kits maar ze zijn wat ongelukkig samengesteld.

En de prijsverhoging was misschien niet zo goed om dat ineens te combineren met een nieuwe editie en extra kosten om je 1ste editie materiaal te blijven gebruiken.

Al bij al zal het zoals bij GW zijn, veel geblaat en weinig wol.

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#19 Posted : Sunday, May 6, 2018 11:36:25 AM(UTC)
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Beetje spijtig dat het dan weer terug 1 X-wing en 2 Tie fighters zijn. Had leuker geweest als ze iets nieuws hadden verzonnen.


Dat blijven natuurlijk wel de "signature" ships van Star Wars en wel nodig als lage drempel om nieuwe spelers te lokken ...
De core set is ook altijd super value for money (30€ voor 3 prepainted ships en dice, cards, maneuver templates etc ...)

Ah btw: de core rulebook is ook altijd terug te vinden op de FFG website, dus daar moet je de core set ook al niet voor kopen...
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Al bij al zal het zoals bij GW zijn, veel geblaat en weinig wol.


Vergelijken met GW lijkt me zeer harsh ... Mellow
Bij GW zou het anders zijn: bij elke editie laten die gewoon hele units vallen waardoor je meestal ineens meer dan 100 à 200€ gewoon opt schap kunt zetten om stof te vergaren. + die maken om de 2 jaar nieuwe edities terwijl FFG het nu pas na 6 jaar doet (en het was echt wel nodig voor het game).
Moesten de rollen omgekeerd zijn en GW zou een nieuwe versie van X-Wing maken dan zou je gewoon alles nieuw moeten kopen peins ik Laugh

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Dat is waar. Maar toch niet de enige herkenbare schepen.


Ik doelde niet op FFG hun werkwijze maar op de reactie van al die blijters die er dan maar mee stoppen en ondertussen hun pre-order plaatsen Blink
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#21 Posted : Sunday, May 6, 2018 8:04:42 PM(UTC)
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Ik doelde niet op FFG hun werkwijze maar op de reactie van al die blijters die er dan maar mee stoppen en ondertussen hun pre-order plaatsen Blink


ok, dat had ik ff verkeerd opgevat Laugh

in other news ... die Hitler heeft ook altijd pech he ...



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#22 Posted : Sunday, May 6, 2018 10:30:22 PM(UTC)
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voor 1ne keer ben ik het eens ni met hem eens se Laugh
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#23 Posted : Monday, May 7, 2018 1:35:41 AM(UTC)
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ik was nog even de demo aant het bekijken en het volgende viel me op.

op een gegeven moment als ze willen beginnen aan de demo wordt er gevraagd voor hoeveel ptn ze eigenlijk spelen.

elke kan zou 200 ptn zijn.
puntentelling zal er dus anders uit zien.
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#24 Posted : Monday, May 7, 2018 8:11:25 AM(UTC)
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Ja dat klopt, ze hebben de schaal aangepast, 200 pts ipv 100 pts en dus bijgevolgd alle bestaande ships/upgrades x2 gedaan qua pointscost.
Allez als basis he er zal wel vanalles gere-balanced zijn.

Het hoger aantal points laat een fijnere granulariteit toe als ze pts willen tweaken.
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Mijn buddy Patrick en ikzelf kunnen alvast niet wachten om deze update te gaan testen. Dit is wat het spel nodig had om het terug gebalanceerd te maken.Laugh
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#26 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2018 9:12:07 AM(UTC)
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Mijn buddy Patrick en ikzelf kunnen alvast niet wachten om deze update te gaan testen. Dit is wat het spel nodig had om het terug gebalanceerd te maken.Laugh


Testen is nog moeilijk gezien de beperkte informatie. Maar wat mensen op Reddit hebben de beschikbare info gebundeld in dit document:

https://docs.google.com/...KUtBivwiOs7VB2bUghg/edit

Er staan 6 volledig speelbare squads in zoals ze te zien waren in de demo's die op Worlds gespeeld zijn. (daar mogen we vanuit gaan dat die more or less juiste & balanced zijn).
Printen & Proxy'en mannen Wink

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#27 Posted : Friday, May 18, 2018 8:05:54 PM(UTC)
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https://www.twitch.tv/ffglive

FFG live met unboxing van conversion kit
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#28 Posted : Friday, May 18, 2018 8:31:42 PM(UTC)
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https://www.twitch.tv/ffglive

FFG live met unboxing van conversion kit


I'm watching BigGrin
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#29 Posted : Friday, May 18, 2018 8:42:31 PM(UTC)
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veel spoiled cards/pilots (Rebels)

screenshots for your pleasure ...

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https://imgur.com/a/53G6Ttw

I like what I see. ThumpUp

EDIT:

Imperial spoiled cards : https://imgur.com/a/Dp3flqy

Scum spoiled cards: https://imgur.com/a/DTcmIPE

Waw, veel info om de komende dagen te verteren !

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De defender ziet er goed uit! Laugh
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